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2 hours ago, Bulldog1 said:

You say it is not hard to constantly get headshots, really? 

Clearly it's not hard to hit constant headshots or get a high percentage of headshots? If so many people on the game are doing it? Oh dear, we are sorry that there is better players than you out there? By the way, I was not trying to be a dick by saying that... But that's what happens, you're going to get people who are better than you on a game? As Soul has just said, for majority of my life while I've been playing competitive gaming, I ALWAYS go for headshots, the pure satisfaction of headshotting someone is insanely good... 

 

I've never had any issue with BCU, in fact I enjoy the server due to the popularity it brings to the game, but... I won't change my game play due to people crying about headshot ratios... 

 

Also, if you'd like me to sign your steam profile, let me know, I'd gladly do so. 

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I'm not accusing anybody of cheating and i just used the term "competitive players" from what Psycho called them in his post.

The issue we have regarding the the amount of headshots certain players seem to find easy to get is the speed that they can get them from just turning and shooting. I'm certainly not a great player in any fps game but when i shoot at a player running away from me, then find they are able to turn, see me hiding on a building, shoot and get regular headshots within a split second it makes average players become suspicious. 

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3 minutes ago, Bulldog1 said:

I'm certainly not a great player in any fps game but when i shoot at a player running away from me, then find they are able to turn, see me hiding on a building, shoot and get regular headshots within a split second it makes average players become suspicious. 

This part right here... You do know there is muzzle flash on the guns? Just making you aware of that right? 

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5 minutes ago, Redden said:

Clearly it's not hard to hit constant headshots or get a high percentage of headshots? If so many people on the game are doing it? Oh dear, we are sorry that there is better players than you out there? By the way, I was not trying to be a dick by saying that... But that's what happens, you're going to get people who are better than you on a game? As Soul has just said, for majority of my life while I've been playing competitive gaming, I ALWAYS go for headshots, the pure satisfaction of headshotting someone is insanely good... 

 

I've never had any issue with BCU, in fact I enjoy the server due to the popularity it brings to the game, but... I won't change my game play due to people crying about headshot ratios... 

 

Also, if you'd like me to sign your steam profile, let me know, I'd gladly do so. 

All players are better than me and i do not care about getting hammered in any server or game but the speed that players get a headshot becomes questionable and that is not only my opinion.

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1 hour ago, Bulldog1 said:

Some players leave our server when certain so called Competitive players join our server, That includes myself.

 

Okay, Also i never stated that you accused anyone of cheating, some of your members are doing so by posting about it 🙂

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Just now, Bulldog1 said:

All players are better than me and i do not care about getting hammered in any server or game but the speed that players get a headshot becomes questionable and that is not only my opinion.

Fair enough, I know I'm one player that gets a decent amount of headshots, however I also stream too because I knew at some point in time this would become a concern for a lot of new/not so good players, which I have nothing against, I have nothing against people not being good at all and I totally understand BCU and many others play purely for fun. 

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1 minute ago, Redden said:

This part right here... You do know there is muzzle flash on the guns? Just making you aware of that right? 

I understand that but it is the speed in the reaction from being shot at especially from distance and being killed becomes questionable from many.

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and that bulldog mate, is where the skill gap comes in to play. Alot higher skilled players will hit them shots at distance and react alot faster, where as people who are not on their skill level wont. it's as simple as that buddy. No need to question peoples ability to headshot. 

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Equal children play best 🙂

For me, it's not about some doing a lot of HS or being High skills player It's the way they play against other lowend players.

And sorry to say it is not high skill player that makes server popular It is the number of players and you feel you are welcome and can participate in the game. And not... die spawn, die spawn die spawn all the time by a high skills player in the base or just outside base while you can see the zone is ALWAYS empty. Why do such players not play TDM? it is due to several more easy kills in a TKOTH when others try to play for or enter the zone...Such player empties the server rather than making it popular. 
I am one of those who leaves the server and see many others doing the same but I NEVER see anyone leave a server because there is a lowend player or 10 trying to play or enter the zone...
And another thing i also never see a high skills player be the first on a server and wait for others to join "Here you can think for yourself" Why? 
Maybe it's better that high skills player who likes many kills base rape, Snipe directly into the base ect join a TDM and wait for others to join so BCU server does not need to make rules to keep other players / their members on their own server 😄

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1 hour ago, cZn.Soul said:

and that bulldog mate, is where the skill gap comes in to play. Alot higher skilled players will hit them shots at distance and react alot faster, where as people who are not on their skill level wont. it's as simple as that buddy. No need to question peoples ability to headshot. 

We will have to agree to disagree on questioning peoples ability Soul my friend.

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The issue about people playing TDM in a TKOTH server comes from the first DF. It's simple: The mode is not good for public servers and even in clan x clan matches you will see teams playing TDM most of the time, depending on the map, one of the reasons why I never liked the gamemode.

About base rape, Wildwilly is correct:  

On 3/13/2021 at 7:08 AM, wildwilly/ said:

got to remember that if you're being killed in your base, you can't get to the zone - therefore playing for the objective.

Comparing to football, if there was a match between Real Madrid and an amateur team, you would see the defensive line of Real Madrid pushing to sufocate the opponent. Their "objective" is to defend, but they are all in the middle of the field. They are not wrong. No way to ask for a rule that is not part of the game. There's nothing to do in this case, this is the nature of the gamemode. If there was roles like "zoner", where people were punished for not going to the zone or things like that, it could be different. (ps: this is not a suggestion)

Despite all this, there is no reason to be toxic or disrespectful with people looking for different experiences, from a different spectrum. Not everyone in the game is looking for super high level matches, competitive queues and leagues.
The best players are the ones who should be more thoughtful and moderate, since those with less competitive experience barely know how certain plays happen (which is normal. I would feel the same in games like SC2).

I don't know the solution to that, but I wouldn't be mad if I was banned from BCU server to let them create a large community with a mutual desire. BCU have lots of members, there's more clans and dozens of players in the similar situation. The game has to be fun for these players and part of the fun also includes killing and winning.

Is BCU tied to TKOTH? If not, I'd say to switch to CTF. I think it's a much more welcoming gamemode for different groups of people. You could also encourage RJS to create and polish the maps.

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